If the Screen Reader Option in the Reading preferences is not set to read the entire document, the alternate text will never be read by screen readers. You can add alt text to images, shapes, screenshots, icons, 3D models, and even text boxes. The best method, I found, for applying this fix is to give the image the desired alt text BEFORE creating any additional states; that way all additional states will automatically be given that alt text (however, then if you want to change the alt text, you have to do so within the Normal state). This is usually not helpful. Hello, I am working with the accessibility tools. Its Normal state alt text is automatically populated as Button 2 (even if you delete the alt text, it will be re-populated as Button 2). A demo of ChromeVox and VoiceOver reading out alt text, captions and description for images on a WordPress page. This is really frustrating guys. Hi Leslie, I submitted a support case. If no trigger is associated with the image, Jaws reads the alt text. Normally, when you tab to a checkbox or button, you need to press enter in order to trigger the action. I've deleted check boxes and recreated them but can't get rid of the problem. To open the Selection pane, type SL, and then P. Narrator announces “Show All button”. We have tried tagging the EPS within Acrobat as background and even figure, hoping to force the reader to only read the Alt Text that we have created. Hi Tina! Most screen readers work in the whole computing environment, but for our purposes how they interact with websites is the most important in this section. Hi Kit, I think this may be the case ... thanks for the feedback. The alternative text field of the Object Properties dialog in the Tags panel; Note: Alternate/Actual text should be short and concise. I am pressed for time. Using latest version of storyline 360 and jaws. Thanks!". Stay away from long image descriptions like this one: “Belgian homemade waffles covered in blueberries and rainbow colored sprinkles on pink plates with pretty napkins and a cup of tea with milk and a teapot all laid on hexagon white tiles.” Then we followed Jonathan's advice of putting "an invisible rectangle on top of a real button that has the triggers you originally had on the real button underneath it and remove accessibility from the real button and add the ALT text to what is now essentially an invisible button on top of your real button." no label read out : Editable text, blank: SaToGo IE11: Tab bing: reads previous heading instead of label : Aria-Label, Editable text, blank: SortSite rules: AccHtmlControlLabelMissing. That was a nightmare keeping hundreds of illustrations cross-referenced to hundreds of raster conversions for the inevitable updates that would come. This has been very helpful. 3. tagged the sentence inside a Span tag inside the Figure tag, same result as 1. But the ...", "Hi Ashley, are there any plans to support the NVDA reader? For example, the following items were recently fixed: If you're using Storyline 3, those same fixes will be available in the next update (release date TBD) and we'll let folks know as soon as that's ready! Read OutLoud is "Text to Speech" tool according to Acrobat. I am experiencing the issue whereby JAWS is reading the alt txt within the button's state, not the Alt Text signify in the Tab Order screen. I don't see anyway to do this automatically from Indesign. When you place an EPS file into InDesign, InDesign totally internalizes the PostScript content into the InDesign document and such EPS content is indistinguishable from other InDesign content by the time you have an exported PDF file. In S2, if a button has different alt text for its Normal state and outside of Edit States, its outside of Edit States alt text will always be read. Means that as well as not displaying alt content as a tooltip, title content is not to be displayed as replacement text for an image. Hi Ashley, are there any plans to support the NVDA reader? The Alternative Text field should be used to set alternative text for figure elements. When I go to the 2nd slide, the screen reader begins reading all of the information that is tabbed to (except for the Previous and Next buttons). If you hover over it, its outside of Edit States alt text will be read. In 2 of my current projects, on some screens when you tab to the check box, nothing will happen until the enter key is pressed - this is expected behavior. In S3, if a button has different alt text for its Normal state and outside of Edit States: In S3 and S2, if an image has different alt text for its Normal state and outside of Edit States, its Normal state alt text will always be read, even after you hit enter on it. Our bad there for starting a fire that might not have really been as urgent as we assumed. JAWS is not reading my texts right. Would you be able to share your .story file with our team here so that we can take a look Janet? Screen readers are used mainly by people who do not have useful vision to read text on the screen. I'll be as clear as I can! Report authors should add alt text to every object that conveys meaningful information on a report. Alternatively you could create an invisible dummy graphic behind the real graphic and put the alt text on that. This kind of behavior where you cannot reliably make content readable by a screen reader might mean that eventually we'll need to seek out another tool. This is new to us. Instead they want you to pay to upgrade to Storyline 3 in order to fix the bug. ZoomText Magnifier/Reader is a fully integrated magnification and reading program tailored for low-vision users. JAWS in particular has a wide variety of settings controlling exactly what gets spoken. Is that accurate? In my experience, it always does. All rights reserved. I repeatedly encounter the same problem on websites. Unfortunately, returning to InDesign to change a tagging style, convert to JPG, or even convert text to outlines in Illustration is not an option as that would effectively reset every compliance edit and test that we have spent several days applying back to zero when exporting the new PDF. version. Screen readers will read the alternative text of images, if alt text is present. Can you share details and any examples (screen recordings, .story files, etc.) The fix for this bug is to give the Normal state the desired alt text. We can use aria-describedby to reference the title of the excerpt and provide context for the link. Alt text (alternative text descriptions) are used to describe the appearance and function of visuals and images on the report page to screen reader users. Most of our InDesign work is based on frequently updated tech manuals that use layered Illustrator files as visual references. In that our books are regularly updated, we typically have to modify many of the illustrations on the fly. Thank you for your clarification and for the suggestion to post over in IND. But the good news is that you don't have to worry about whether or not NVDA is supported by Articulate because from my experience any Storyline bugs that have occurred in NVDA have also occurred in JAWS. The Articulate team have no intention at present to fix this bug in Storyline 2. If the content that the image conveys is presented within text in the surrounding context of the image, then an empty alt attribute may suffice. When I reproduced a simplified version of your problem by creating a Word file with one sentence and a box below it, creating and then manually tagging a PDF, this is what I found. tools and have entered a description. This allows me to update the underlying layer without worrying about converting it. E.g., Button 1's hover state has Button 3 as its auto-populated alt text. Will report back once I hear from them. So I don't accept 'We don't support NVDA' as an answer. Please get this bug fixed! The button's (outside of Edit States) alt text was being read, even though the button's Normal state alt text was blank. By continuing to browse the site you consent to the use of cookies. The projects were created in Storyline 360 at the very end of November, 2017. The answer from Articulate will likely be 'No'. In context of your response, do you know of a way to group/tag/whatever PDF content (for example, a small bar chart on a page) that would 1) prevent the text-to-speech reader from reading the internal content of that group, and 2) still allow Alt Text to be read in that  group's place? 1. tagged all content as a figure with alt text. All other button states appear to have the auto-populated alt text of Button original # + 2. While I am not describing that technically accurate, I hope it conveys my meaning! It sounds like you are currently working on all of these projects, so they are developed with the same version/update and no variance? When you use these products, a screen reader can read text on your screen aloud. So if you write “Image of” in an alt-text, a screen reader will say “Image Image of…” when the user focuses on the image. Hi. I've come across this issue earlier today and it's frustrating (in my case, actual text in a frame that looks like a pie chart due to the font being used). I haven't tested Storyline 3, so I can't confirm whether it has fixed the bug and whether this is the case in both NVDA and JAWS. Create compelling e‑learning courses with stunningly simple, remarkably powerful software from Articulate. I have the same issue. ignore my description and just read the file name? http://www.access-for-all.ch/en/201-englisch/500-vip-pdf-reader-e.html, https://www.szb.ch/en/hilfsmittel/digital-tools/the-first-pdf-reader-for-visually-impaired-people/. Hope this helps, and it would be great if you could submit this as a new support case, as that *may* prompt the team to address this bug as a priority. The work around that we had to do was to delete the visibility of all the images, the triggers, and set buttons set back to none. I will always ask them to actually test the issue in JAWS and to confirm if the same behaviour occurs. Alt text on object's other states is not read by JAWS. ALT text refers to invisible description of images which are read aloud to blind users on a screen reader. Adding ALT text allows authors to include images, but still provide the content in an alternative text based format. If no tri...", "Hi Janet, not reading my ALT text for my images. To a screen reader, there is no context for where this link will take you. With the issue on  the data entry button, I followed Kuriko's suggestion above but it still did not work for me. This problem is easily resolved by converting all graphics to bitmaps and some U.S. agencies still prefer this because the document is more stable. Content provided by Microsoft. I am also encountering problems with tabbing and check boxes. You should try more suitable tools instead, such as, - NVDA (free screenreader, Windows only, see NV Access site at https://www.nvaccess.org, - VIP Reader (free reader for visually impaired persons, Windows, Mac and Linux, for a good intro see Access for all site at http://www.access-for-all.ch/en/201-englisch/500-vip-pdf-reader-e.html​ and for download go to Swiss Central Organization for the Blind site at https://www.szb.ch/en/hilfsmittel/digital-tools/the-first-pdf-reader-for-visually-impaired-people/​ (at the bottom of the page). Hi Janet! First a short background if you’re not familiar with screen readers. The video in my post demonstrates why this is happening and shows you a workaround for it. About Narrator . This is because a screen reader, in order to describe the purpose of the link, will default to reading out the image filename when no alt text is available. On other slides, and this is all within the same project, just tabbing to the check box will activate it. I've found in S3 that the button's Normal state alt text is what is (initially*) read by the screen reader AND that if the Normal state's alt text is left blank, S3 will automatically populate that field with the button's original Timeline designation +1. Let me know if I can help. Help! Provide Context For "Continue Reading" Links. with our Support team by uploading at this link? 5. artifacted the text that was in the Span tag and deleted the empty Span tag. You have to assume that the context will tell you that. You can either add your file in a reply to this message, or if you prefer, upload the file here. Spacer images are invisible images that pretty much most websites use. The first step when determining appropriate alternative text for an image is to decide if the image presents content and if the image has a function. I'll send the .story file to the link you provided. If you tab navigate to the button, its Normal state alt text will be read until you hit enter or click on it, at which point its outside of Edit States alt text will be read. Do you literally convert AI to raster or set all text to outlines in your projects? Any suggestions? Your issue sounds like it may be a bit different than Wendy's and I know that she's working with Alyssa here. Narrator cannot read the alternative text for images when you use reading view in Internet Explorer 11. I am If a piece of text is identified as a heading within the HTML code, the screen reader will announce that it’s a heading. The recommendation is to write a maximum of 125 characters, otherwise your alt text may not be read completely by search engines. Worst case, out of the box would be helpful too. 4. added Alt text to the Span tag and Read Out Loud reads the alt text for both but does NOT read the content. Thanks! When screen readers read the body text, they cannot find text boxes that float above the document’s text layer. There were some keyboard navigation issues, such as an incorrect tab order for objects on slide layers. It sounds like you've had things set up correctly in terms of selecting that the object is visible to accessibility tools, and including text within the Alt text box below: If you'd like us to take a look at your .story file, please share it here. The problem. While you could certainly do this, the main upside to using screen reader only text over an aria-label is that the screen reader is not required to support ARIA, it’s simply reading text on the page that sighted users cannot see. Narrator is a light-duty screen-reader utility that is included in Microsoft Windows. This thread is attached to that report and we will update you here when we can. Adobe Read Out loud reads both the alt text and the tag contents in XI, DC and DC Reader. You would have to manually tag the document and artifact ONLY the text to get Adobe Reader to ignore it. In the document, press Alt+H to open the Home tab. I ended up marking the chart as an artifact and added a 1-pixel transparent image in a frame situated on top of the original image that I've tagged instead. Why do you have to retain object-oriented content  (i.e., EPS content) in your final document? Published 4 March 2018, by Daniel Göransson. The Touch Up Reading Order tool (refer to “Add Alternate Text with the Touch Up Reading Order Tool”). Screen readers read letters out loud as you type them, but say “star” or “asterisk” for password fields. Found that after upgrading the project to S3, the buttons within it were now  exhibiting the same bug I reported earlier in this thread regarding multi-state image alt text in S2. It is reading the file name in the I have tried setting the table as a "figure" in the Touch up Reading Order dialog box. I'm using SL360 latest version, JAWS version for testing. Let me share my agony with you! Ideally, I would like to find a compromise between what we must do for current project demands and what we must adjust to for 508 work. Was building a project in Storyline 2 and upgraded the project file to Storyline 3 to take advantage of Storyline 3-produced projects not having a tab navigation bug I was encountering with S2-produced projects. Not very pleasant. However, you should include an empty alt attribute so screen reader users know that there is an image that is purely decorative. If by "Acrobat reader" you mean the "read out loud" feature - that is not a suitable tool for checking the accessibility of tagged PDFs. This is a ridiculous and tedious workaround (especially if you have many buttons that you wish to duplicate) which is why I am still hoping that the Articulate team will address this bug in an update someday. Download free e‑books on all things e‑learning. Copied. The screen reader does not read the text box on the first slide. I saw there was a bug logged for SL3 but is there one also logged for SL360 and is there a workaround? I'm not sure what that is yet though. I've spent way too much time trying to fix the problem but it's still occurring and these were due yesterday. If so, how then do you personally handle edits for document version updates? Screen readers don’t look at Web pages: they read HTML code. Alternative text (alt text) allows screen readers to capture the description of an object and read it aloud, providing aid for those with visual impairments. This is mostly tables and graphics. Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. If an element has alternate text but does not contain any page content, there is no way to determine which page it is on. What could be causing the JAWs reader to I am using IE 10 to open the published HTML file. To access text inside a text box, use the Selection pane. One thing you can do is end the alt-text by stating if it’s a special type of image, like an illustration. It reads all three text boxes the same way (usually the text from the first text box). JAWS screen readers wouldn't announce the active player tab. And the software is kept up to date. This is very tedious work and let me tell you that our team is not happy of having to have to redo so much work because this feature is not working correctly and it has been a known issue for over a year. Since this bug has been around for 4 years, I'm now very accustomed to using the dodgy workarounds that we had to devise to overcome the issue (such as the nifty one that Douglas mentioned). In most cases, an image will only have a function if it is contained within a link (or is an image map hotspot or a button). FWIW, there is no such thing as “EPS in PDF.”. Here's a look at what I mean (using a standard button rather than an image): I'm sorry this behavior is impacting your workflow - I know it takes valuable time to edit the alt text like that. Also noticing that if I have separate alt tags on the image and the image's normal state, the normal state's alt tag is what gets read. Determining if the image presents content and what that content is can be much more difficult. While most screen readers support ARIA, you may not want to rely on it … Here’s how to add alt text to an object in Word. It now reads correctly and no error generated in Acrobat XI, DC, and DC Reader (although Reader took a few restarts, at first it wasn't reading anything). Test notes. This way most screen readers will completely ignore the image and won't even announce its presence. Are there any other options, from within Acrobat, to group, disable, or otherwise change how the reader reads the EPS file to only see the Alt Text? This is quite odd, as most software companies fix bugs in their software as free updates. It’s about text splitting up. Turn screen reader on or off. Sometimes it's not possible to … In S2, this bug did not occur with buttons. Magnifier/Reader enlarges and enhances everything on your computer screen, echoes your typing and essential program activity, and automatically reads documents, web pages, email. JAWS precedes the alternative text with the word “graphic.” If the image is a link, JAWS precedes the … I really don't know. When tagged as background, the element is simply no longer available to try applying Alt Text to. This particular issue has been on our radar for a few months, and we're working to prioritize it. They are legitimate screen readers, Assistive Technology -- they are screen readers. Let's say I have 3 text boxes. Illustration.” End with a period. 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For Multiple choice questions, Jaws is reading the option in normal state (no radio button selected) but once the radio button is selected it won't announce it is selected. The best method, … 4. added Alt text to the Span tag and Read Out Loud reads the alt text for both but does NOT read the content. The screen reader will add that by default. Please do something about this. We have a PDF made up of text and EPS artwork. Alt-text is often thought of as just an accessibility requirement, but beyond being read by screen readers to provide information on the meaning and content of a graphic image, it serves several other important functions. This is not recommended and it causes a "nested alt text error when running Acrobat Accessibility check in XI. I have even tried placing all of the text into the Alt Text box, and that does not make a difference. Copyright © 2020 Adobe. This site uses cookies. Thanks for the detailed reply btw! JAWS screen reader not reading captivate file caption text PrintzBYDesign. NVDA was reading my image file names instead of the alt tags I'd given the images. We've released a few fixes for the items in this discussion in the past couple updates of Storyline 360. Then artifact the real graphic. That workflow may not be applicable in 508 compliance. Alt text is always required, how it is written can vary depending on the type of image. Thanks! Applies to: Internet Explorer 11. When tagged as a Figure, the reader does read the Alt Text first, but then continues to read the EPS text content immediately after. The alt attribute does not represent advisory information. You're in the right place to be updated when we have new information to share. User agents must not present the contents of the alt attribute in the same way as content of the title attribute. Thanks! My apologies for the late response. Screen readers announce the page title (the element in the HTML markup) when first loading a web page. Bummer: not only does this bug still exist in Storyline 3, but it appears now to extend to actual buttons. Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. Adobe Read Out loud reads both the alt text and the tag contents in XI, DC and DC Reader. Essentially, you'll have to create all your buttons again from scratch! "I see the same thing when my image is used like a button. Screen readers already know that it is an image from the img tag, so a screen reader would read that example as “An image of ‘An image of a single romantic rose’”. Looking for Ideas: Force Reader to Read Alt Text not EPS Content? Unless you assume that the image description is a sentence or paragraph, you can't absolutely know for sure where it ends. What version of Storyline are you using? How do I set Alt Text so that the screen reader reads just the Alt Text and not the table contents. Thanks! 2. added "Actual Text" to the Figure tag, same result as 1. Since I don't think my previous assessment of that bug was fully accurate, I'd now describe it as: For images in S2 that have more than one state AND a different alt text for the image (outside of Edit States) and the Normal state (within Edit States), the Normal state alt text is what will be read by the screen reader; if the Normal state's alt text is blank (but detectable), the image file name will be read by the screen reader. I think most of our issue is that this is simply new to us so we're making very rookie mistakes. Thanks again for the detailed response. The fix for this bug is to give the Normal state the desired alt text. Alt text (alternative text), also known as \"alt attributes\", “alt descriptions\", or technically incorrectly as \"alt tags,” are I am a screen reader user, and I am annoyed! 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